JonKhan's blog

By JonKhan, history, 4 weeks ago, In English

Has anyone else noticed the quiet tragedy unfolding in recent rounds? For years, Alice and Bob stood as equals. Every game theory problem ended with the sacred question: "Print Alice if Alice wins, and Bob otherwise." Lately, however, a dark trend has taken over. Authors aren't even asking who wins anymore—they just ask: "Print YES if Alice wins, and NO otherwise."

Think about how much Bob has already sacrificed for this community. For over a decade, Alice has been given the first move in almost every single game, and Bob accepted playing second without a single complaint. He endured countless rigged games where the optimal strategy simply reduced to a one-line cout << "Alice\n";. Through it all, he kept showing up and playing optimally.

Now, problem setters have taken the final step and erased his name from stdout completely. Even when Bob plays optimally across $$$10^4$$$ test cases, outsmarts Alice despite the second-player disadvantage, and clutches the game, he doesn't get the satisfaction of seeing his name printed. His hard-earned victory has been reduced to a cold, heartless "NO"—turning his triumph into nothing more than a boolean footnote to Alice's failure.

Bob is not just !Alice. He has been grinding game theory alongside her since the dawn of Codeforces, and he deserves basic recognition. I call upon all problem authors and coordinators to take this into account: stop the Bob erasure, bring back "Alice" and "Bob" to the output section, and give Bob his rights back.

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You're right.

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Yes Jon, you are absolutely right!!

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Hail Bob

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nahh

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Bob needs justice!!!!

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I'd rather write cout << "Alice\n" instead of cout << "Bob\n".

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sound so serious lol, but i do agree with u

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Sooner or later, it will be 'Alice' if Alice wins and 'Almost Alice' if Alice loses, making sure Alice's name appears no matter what.

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there is modern trends now. men just get no respect. bob deserve justice!

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Bro, why are you "The user is disabled." after getting 252 upvote :sob

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    The codeforces gods didn't agree

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    he probably used $$$AI$$$ for more than just the blog

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      I know, so I am sorrying for his contribution he will get if he doesnt use AI :((

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      No, I am his classfellow and I can assure you JonKhan never used AI during a codeforces round.

      He is from a reputable school in the Pakistani CP community and has performed well in on-site contests. JonKhan made it to final round of TST last year and has given medal level performances in many invigilated OI online mirrors.

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        just put fries in the bag bro he clearly cheated

        see the link

        see this report! i'll gather his all solution codes and create a report on that too like past 30-35 submissions...then it'll get clear.

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          What is this AI slop bruh, zero real evidence for cheating, "he solved a 1700 problem as a 1500" oh wow I solved a 1900 as a 1500/1700 guess I'm a fraud sorry guys apology.sc3developerontop.me

          I'm not denying he's a cheater, I don't know but did you really have to waste water for this

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            nope! read it first, it didnot say that he solved 1700 rated question so he's a cheater, i know that people punch above their class and all, there was full explanation and logic on his submission stats and how the cf anti plagiarism and cheating systems might have worked. cf dont just ban blindly anyone they flag the users in backend first if multiple violations detected then they only ban them permanently.

            and you're clearly defending a cheater, no need to do drama and all and spam on cf for appeal, you guys should accept that his account is not coming back so no need to spam for appeal through comments and blogs.

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              I'm not denying he's a cheater, I don't know

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              I dont care to defend anyone but how does someone even have the audacity to leave an ai-slop like this and call it evidence all ur ai said is that his contest is skipped so this is suspicious because only cheaters get skipped lol.

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          Он не списывал — он очень трудолюбивый студент; вот пример того, как он решает множество задач ради самосовершенствования (не обращайте внимания на отметки времени).

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            Он опять прислал те же решения, что уже скидывал с прошлого аккаунта.

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              Жаль, что ему приходится делать это снова... 😭

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                Мне нравятся твои смешные слова, мальчик в пубертате.

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      well ik ppl are annoyed at this friend supporting disabled accounts thing but since my goal nowadays is neg contribution so Id still like to support my friend:

      Jon does not use AI in contests and you can even view his skipped submissions that it looks similar to his usual codes he has given multiple contests and performed good during invigilation and I do think you should try not to make assumptions because the only evidence we have is the skipped submissions which look pretty normal to me and I dont just say this because he is my profile picture mate I mean it xD

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        whether or not he cheated, I don't know, and really it's never been more pointless to discuss specific cf cheaters. but it is admirable that you are sticking up for your friend.

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          Im really glad for ur comments and yeah ik its often pointless discussing this kind of thing because its very unlikely for CF to unban anyone I just didnt like seeing what happened, as he put in a lot of effort in this account, so wanted to say something on it.

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Everyone, comment on and upvote the blog. Let’s flood the author’s Gmail since bro can’t reply anymore. And if he’s innocent, ++Contribution is compensation.

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I agree

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ohhh hell yeahh bro

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Now there is a need for justice for JonKhan, instead of Bob

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You are absolutely right

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MikeMirzayanov please unban user JonKhan because I know him since 2023 and he can't cheat. He is really an honest and a handworking programmer.

Thanks ZainUlHaq (He is also my friend), you already cleared all the things to others.

Once again MikeMirzayanov please unban JonKhan or at least review it again, I am sure you will end up with a better result.

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JonKhan has put a lot of time and effort into this account.
It is unfair to ban him without giving a reason or a chance to appeal.

MikeMirzayanov please review his account once again.

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    the WORST part is that alice and bob appear same number of times in sample case

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      Yeah after all that, Bob should have at least should have came more times than Alice.

      But Alas, if it would have happened someone else would stand up for this injustice against Alice.

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I think after everything Bob has endured, he deserves to make the first move.

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I will be back soon and get both Bob and myself justice for sure...

I think 5 contests will be enough to reach expert again and then I will get myself both myself and Bob Justice by authoring a contest with JonKhan and Bob...

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How about the jury? He(She?) tirelessly judge all $$$998244353$$$ games played by Alice and Bob without a single credit. I suggest printing "Jury" instead of "Alice" and "Bob" in the future game theory problems.

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this is very weird to see that JonKhan is ban cuz he want justice for bob :/. what is consipricy behind bob

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What about Jerry and Jessica?

Jack and Jim?

joan and jett?

Perry and Patty?

Oscar and Olivia?

Angie and Arnold?

Betty and Barack?

Sheldon and Leonard?

Jim and Pam?

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    good question lets go for all of these then!!!

    I am soon making a contest with multiple IOI Gold and Brownse medalists and will make sure that the rights of these people are cared...

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    Definitely Sheldon and Leonard, tbbt is peak

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Bob isn't losing the game anymore. He's losing his identity...

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Justice for Bob!

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#JusticeForBob

BOB

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JonKhan asked for the rights of bob but CF took his rights instead. How Diabolical? Let's change the topic to justice for Jon instead of Justice for Bob.....

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    The coordinators of that round where he was accused to be cheating confirmed that he deserve the ban.

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      Could they publicly post the proof for everybody to see if that's the case. A person should be aware of why their account was banned. I was his former schoolmate and I can confirm he would never cheat a day in his entire life.

      MikeMirzayanov Vladosiya Please review and unban his account.

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        why would they reveal their methods publicly if cheaters can then learn and bypass them? the coordinator of the round already confirmed his cheating.

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          I think you're a cheater. I won't tell you why because cheaters will learn and bypass the methods I used to find out you're a cheater. If you provide evidence that you aren't a cheater, then you're hiding cheating and I'll disable you anyways. If you keep silent, you won't have any opposing proof and be disabled.

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            how can someone find evidence and proof that they arent cheating bro.... this whole thing of "not reveal evidence" is messed up

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            What you think doesn't matter cuz you don't have ban perms

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              Riiiiight so mocking a person for being the next Christine- with the "cheaters will do some reverse engineering if we give proof" even though you could just say that and ban everybody in the world is unimportant because I didn't contact Mike Mirzyanov back in 2010 and beg on my knees to get ban perms

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          They have to tell the community the proof they gathered against the person before blatantly accusing them of cheating. They can ban many accounts this way and just say that they dont want to reveal their methods so they won't give proof. That is not how it should work.

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its how they treated tom wrt jerry over time

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Bob's family are here.

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justice for Bob!! I also think it has happent because Alice is lexicographically smaller than Bob

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Nah actually bring back Alice and Bob. What's up with these unreadable nicknames that you can barely follow while trying to comprehend the statement? It's only a matter of time until we get Ovuvuevuevue Enyetuenwuevue Ugbemugbem Osas and Kkwazzawazzakkwaquikkwalaquaza Zzabolazza in an actual game theory problem...

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Agree, Bob deserves himself a problem in my next problemset.

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bro this happens to men always , lol