Massive Cheating
We did 6/10 with 0 WAs in First Half. Yet After seeing the leaderboard/Stats it's kind of sad state that I will get 400-500 rank. Even Similar Performance Last year for our team would have gave out almost around 100 rank, at worst case 200-300 but i am shocked.
For reference, Top team from our University did perform similar to present prelims last year and got top 10 in Prelims and this time even after doing 8/10, They are at rank 80s.
If u do not believe lemme show you the stats. 
The question were really tough from G-H onwards. We had fun and we believed that ICPC prelims is a fair Competition among every teams. But when i reached home, I heard no Proctoring in Many Institutions due to which they got like all teams Aked. What are we heading towards in this country as a whole if this unfair system is going on, where in our Uni, Everyone, the staff followed strict rules and regulations. But in Some another university someone is using phone , using AI easily, Bragging on Linkedin and Giving contest from their home and Feeling Good. I do feel good we performed very well but the result was not expected. And Plagraism check and AI check you know is very hard to detect in this new Era where smart cheaters can easily fake even if the video is On. Some local Colleges team beating every top colleges team was not my in bucketlist this year.
Anyways, This maybe my Rant but I might not go to regionals due to this but yeah i can cope now. I would not stop my grind but I am tired of this Cheating Stuff. Hopefully ICPC board ban these colleges and make this only reliable competition fair and secure from next time.
The strategy for reporting cheating teams should be targeting and checking the top teams on the tentative lists who have solved 7-10 questions. We should first verify whether they have a background, achievements and CF ratings that support their standings on the leaderboard; otherwise, we should just report them.As the top ones are definitely 90% and more cheaters , we can eliminate most of them. This approach is the most reasonable one to eliminate cheaters, and it gives genuine teams a chance to advance to the regionals.
Let's make the leaderboard cheater free and icpc reasonably good experience for genuine teams.
UPD: Contest Inquiry. Hopefully this tones down significantly.
Should have prepped harder lmao, me and my team did 10 questions,we split the problemset amongst ourselves and just prepped on leetcode and hackerrank… they were just simple dsa questions just becuz u dont know how to code dont call us cheaters
Edit: due to people not getting the obvious sarcasm(or i thought) relating to the cit guy on linkedin doing 10 questions,i would like to clarify that i did not get 10 questions in icpc and will not br qualifying in regionals
i dont even know if you have heard a quote in hindi, "nakal ke liye bhi akal chahiye hoti hai"...stfu, atleast dont try to act like this, which triggers our anger more. just go and do the fuck with your ai, this is not the place for you. and just tell me your team name if you are genuine, if you don't tell that we all know.
rehne do , attention pane ka naya naya tarika dhundhte h aajkal ...c**** ke kya muh lagna , LC -> DSA -> ICPC seriously :D
he was talking about cheaters. if you didn't cheat, why are you offended?
drop an insult on the floor and its owner will come pick it up
angar moot diye bhai jaan
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Bro, if these are simple DSA questions, then why are you not even pupil???
bro has recently unlocked a new skill
Every person on this planet is worth something. Take you, for example—you and people like you are the reason humanity had to invent words like "b*******”
Do you mean bad guy??
no i think it means bhakkk bsdk!!!!
I guess its this
lol my whole college here , yayay
bro's confidence level after cheating...
Not only,I bet...
Peak ragebait ahh comment
Humanity has reserved a special word for hardworking people like you, we call it "m*r*n"
real
btw hi sir
successful ragebait
Fuck You Bitch
The audacity of this guy omg.
This guy is actually really good at 3 things:
- Cheating
- Ragebaiting
- Farming absolute value of contribution
r u too :)))
sun m** 26 sawal kare hai tune cf pe gyaan mat c***d jyada
orz
I understand how immature people are in the comments section. They can't even understand sarcasm. I know this guy, he and his team are very genuine and is just joking about 10 solves.
"genuine"? Yeah, then how come he is cheating in normal Codeforces contests? https://codeforces.me/submissions/cockingishaan657/contest/2267
Nga i got 10 wa and ur calling it cheating what part did i cheat pls give me example
https://codeforces.me/submissions/cockingishaan657/contest/2242
Does the online judge need an explanation of your code?
Man cheating is one thing but acting all high and mighty after doing it is just another level of audacity
Wow!! Amazing. Could you please tell me your team id. I would like to learn from your solutions once they become public tomorrow.
Bait++
see you offline there :)
A newbie solving all questions in prelims after practicing DSA on leetcode and hackerrank? How high you are rn?
ragebait?
easy ragebait
aagya alt se cheater
people after solving 26 problems
Tf? Really? Where did you find these stats? No way so many teams solved these problems. Specially the 7th problem, which was around 1900+ easily in my opinion and a lot more people would have dropped off at that mark.
The ranklist was live for around 15 mins, this data is true.
this is true data bro...there are so many cheaters...like you can expect atleast 70 in top 100 easily
yea 7th 8th were good but were on very hard side and we also thought of same thing that its a wall like last year it was the 5th question which could have easily made u top 20 but rest 4 had vast number of solves.
I don't think any legit team got >8 ACs (from what I've heard so far).
there is a team in IIT BHU who solved 9, but in most of other top IITs and IIITs didn't hear any other with >8, so yeah atmost 2-3 9 solved ig
even IIT Kgp top team rank is around 170. CP is beyond cooked.
Well my team solved 8 and we won asia west last year, I don't believe the one solving 9 is legit either, never heard of those guys in any competition or anything
ohh okay, i know you won awc(team "not qualified", right?), i was talking about your team only for 9 solves, my coach who is iit bhu alumni only told me, i think it was a misunderstanding, my bad
thought your team did 9.
btw just curious , how much time did u guys take to solve 8 problems ?
1:39 from start when submitted 8th problem
BiggestOtaku Are you cheater?
(https://ibb.co/Q7tQPn1j)
(https://ibb.co/mrCwNdgv)
https://ibb.co/bMH8xw2V
bruh the first submission is skipped because he resubmitted code in contest.
You won last year because of him kingmessi. Now, he has graduated
yea, I do not know how will they discard so many teams now. There was no proctoring in many unknown/local colleges.
I mean its almost impossible if you think about it. Solving these many questions in 3 hrs with 1 PC.
Somehow last year's prelims was much better. Idk if they would conduct a re for this one
One of the major reasons that attracted unnecessary participants would be the ICPC Amritapuri ambassador thing, which awarded something for no. of participants registered from a college which caused surge in both no. of participants this year and cheaters.
Nice , I was able to do 5 with no WAs with my team , couldn't figure out F unfortunately.People said it was easier than E. Whatever be the case I don't think much will happen with 5 solves . Our college has teams with max 7 solves .
goodluck man. Yea max 7-8 or maybe even 9 for very good teams is justified. But everyone and their mom aking from some local college which never showed up in list in years. Leetcode type contest.
Bro don't worry, i guess it should be easy to figure out cheaters, first of all the teams with 7 or 7+ problems should be well known (previous regionalist/asia west/world finalist's) so out of first 350ish teams some 2 digit number should be remaining, now comes the 5 and 6 solvers icpc should ask for recordings from each centre and hopefully all iits and nits and tier-1-2 colleges should provide them that (i dont know about lower tier colleges i just hope they too can provide the exam hall recording), rest looking at the recoding and figuring out what the team is trying to discuss or maybe some other form of checking should reduce a lot of cheaters. There is one very important fact which i kind of have accepted in a country like INDIA where the population is too much, the exam conduction is too difficult to be 100% fare, I just hope a good enough percentage of cheaters are removed so that the fare and deserving teams gets the chance to participate in the regionals.
PS1: Our team also solved first 6 problems, it was difficult to guess how we performed because last 1 and half hour we didn't manage to solve any question, i still hope that we can manage to get into regionals.
PS2: Reflecting on my first line where i said "it should be easy to figure out cheaters", I am realizing that it wont be an easy task indeed but i hope icpc does its work with proficiency and integrity, hopefully final standing would be tolerable (i guess its the right word seeing the situation).
we are in same boat. Yea we all hope ICPC does handle this situation.
There were no videos recorded (even if it was recorded nothing could have happened)
Also people are not fools (neither AI) to write such a code that is easily detectable ...
our college had very good amount of proctoring with frequent invigilators round i thought everywhere the scene is same but when i came back to my room and got to know about cheating in other institutions i was disheartened by the fact that not even ICPC is safe now :(
same feelings
yo twin we got same pfp
Hahaha
where did you get standing ?
it's scraped data, i guess
MiracleMagician don't worry man, you will get thru, you deserve it, hopefully ICPC bans these cheaters and remove them from the official leaderboard , have faith , all the best
thanks bud
It's hard to believe bastards are cheating now in ICPC, this is where pure talent and problem solving should matter and what do you gain by cheating? even if you somehow make it to the offline round, what then? You're just taking away someone else's deserved opportunity. and I personally feel that even in the AI era, everyone should experience problem-solving. The struggle of trying to solve a hard problem, thinking about it for hours, and still having no approach or getting a Wrong Answer at 2, don't ruin ICPC the way LeetCode has been ruined, because cheaters think a high rating means a good job. A high rating doesn't guarantee a job, current job market is too different. (i am also try to get back into competitive programming and try from where I left)
Hope the cheaters realize what they're doing. At least have some shame.
I bet if I give same problemset tomorrow or even after few days to those 23 teams, none of them will be able to solve 10/10
Bro they can't even solve 5/10, forget 10
5/10 for them is still generous though imho, lol
Even less than 3/10, lol
Honestly, holding a recontest at pre-allocated offline centers—kind of like IICPC (Codefest)—is the only real option left for ICPC India now.
Even if you ban the teams that solved 7+ problem just on the basis of their CF id or past track records . Still some cheaters will definitely slip through, and that’s would be completely unfair to the genuine teams who actually worked hard .
Think about it—in some cases, participants probably didn't even look away from their cameras. The invigilators/coach could have just handed them the direct code instead of the question paper, and they simply typed it out after altering it a bit (plagiarism can't detect) .
How are you even supposed to detect something like that?
yeah thats the best option
ngl, given the circumstances this is a very reasonable idea
How do u think they will conduct for 15k people? Also IICPC is exclusive to top colleges so less people, strict checking. Even in Delhi u just need IIITD and IITD venue for IICPC. For ICPC you need so much for many people. You are neglecting the recost, travelling of people, accomodation. Also IICPC uses same mechanism as ICPC. (SEB). Its the people with local University who have 0 integrity. Its issue on inviligation and proctoring people which will be very hard. I would say more efficient way is even ,if one team is caught which is not reported by uni, ICPC india should ban entire college forever so team count falls rapidly in leaderboard without any entertainment.
I hope the 20th october list comes good even with some noise, so we can safely think for our next step.
if T3 colleges are not able to invigilate, it is only fair that ICPC only be conducted on limited centres in tier 1/2 colleges. Just prevent colleges who were caught cheating this time from ever participating again, that would remove the logistical issues by reducing the number of participants. It was the responsibility of the college to prevent cheating, as mentioned in the undertaking.
I think that way many teams which actually deserved will get banned while being legit...
IICPC codefest invigilation was not strict everywhere last year.
Yea thats what I am saying, Its okay to have noise , we are such a big country. Somewhere or the other their will be mismanagment. Just ban the univs. so from next time they do not even show their face in leaderboard.
yes straight up ban the colleges where the cheating happened, and the teams that cheated should be banned from the college's training and placement cell as well.
Actually the problems were good tbh, our team really enjoyed solving those but we never expected that we will be at ~500s if we solved 6 :(
Same feelings. No way we are making it to the regionals , I am pretty sure of that. Solved 5 with no WA. Its just a sad state of affairs, not sure what picture this paints of us as a country in front of the global CP community.
I think the ICPC should demand accountability from all the colleges where centers allowed unfair means. It could be due to a lack of invigilation, colleges actively helping their students, or various other reasons.
I am in the strong favour for a reprelims as this is not unfair for students. Many people will be still left in it as it happens in codeforces
sonam wangchuk 2.0 when
CP- Competitive Prompting (T_T)
just rent a massive barn in the middle of india and have them all travel there if they really want to compete. also take their phones and stuff so they can't cheat. take the top $$$15$$$ or $$$20$$$ teams and you got your regionals (or whatever comes next). administering it in $$$\ge 2$$$ places would almost certainly lead to cheating.
One question to all the high and mighty "10/10 solvers" in this comment section:
Why is this performance not reflected in JEE? Why not in Olympiads? Why not in your Exams? Why not in Placements? Why not in ICPC World Finals?
But when the exam is unproctored, you suddenly rise from the last to the first, and have the audacity to say your preparation was better?
Give me atleast one accolade you have in a legitimate competition or examination.
With all its resources I believe ICPC can adopt a strategy similar to IIT M B.S. OPPEs... They can set up actual(human) proctors to invigilate about 30 teams by asking them for their Workspace area over g-meet or some other platform.... SEB will prevent all VM based Cheating and the proctors will be there to handle all the anomalies that flaunt their Competitive prompting skills...Ofc this is not going to be easy but atleast it will prevent such a large scale massacre of their prestige
these fools thinks they are going to get a high paying job doing ts
Remove Indians
they are cheaters
only cuz we are better than you all?
Why they are not conducting icpc prelims on separate venue to stop cheating when they are charging 1500 greater then jee main Fee.
So my team did 5/10 qs in the prelims
It was suprise for us doing 5qs being only 1200 rated
(but in fact those 5 were like not that diffuclt just knowing basic STL and having good problem solving will get u through 5qs)
But the fact is that we are in growing phase and this is very possible, so i doubt restricting codeforces rating might flag us
But i can ensure ur college (IIT BHU) had a very strict procter so no chance of any kind of cheating
At end i feel ICPC should find a solution for it either having computer centers where teams can sit and solve instead of letting proctering on hands of random institues
I dont think your team would be restricted because of rating , the first 5 problems were doable so I think leeway would be given for teams like yours , its the newbies/pupils solving >7 problems that would be limited.
question to all having genuine experience with icpc , how many should have legitimately solved >=7 in your opinion ?
50-60
i genuinely want that to be the case, and hopefully icpc is able to filter out the ranklist really well (╥﹏╥)
LOTM guy?
I think ICPC must rule out some strict actions and protocols regarding this issue. We all deserve a fair chance to play, and those who are cheating in prelims are just baggage on humankind and their existence !!!
What do you guys think, would be the selection criteria this year. As, I think, last year was 3/6 right, so this year would be 5/10??? ＞﹏＜.
Ps :- only solved three A,B,D
I guess it depends on how well they filter cheating. From a gut feeling, I feel 4 problems fast without penalty should be the cutoff in a world where there was no cheating at all. But yeah, I expect it's going to end up 5 problems with some reasonable penalty.
It's sad, then.. but it's okay. I should accept.. Thanks for the grounded conclusion.