I have heard some opinions but I still can't decide. What do you think?
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It is important when someone discovers you.
I think you are born with this ability. Programming (in pascal) is taught at my school. After first few lessons it was clearly visible who is talented and who is hopeless. I think it is because programming in general requires good logical reasoning. Similarly, not everyone can become an artist or singer.
'After first few lessons it was clearly visible who is talented and who is hopeless.'
It depends on teacher. When I was studing in 8-th class, my programming teacher was so cool that I didn't undersrand what cycle for is. But after lessons with an adequate teacher my results had become better.
No doubt that teacher plays a significant role. But I guess everyone in OVR's class had the same teacher. So there is something what make somebody do better and somebody worse under the same circumstances.
I strongly hope think there is no thing like talent xD
I Think it's all about Practice !
when human born he knows nothing.
but he learn everything during his life
I see some people who can achieve great things with less effort than others. This is the talent, i think. But if someone can really work hard, the difference may be disappear.
The question surely has no simple correct answer. But I think that the best of simple answers is "result is not sum, but product of talent and efforts".
When any of the factors (either talent or efforts) is zero or very near to zero, no one can get big product (great results) by only another factor.
I can say in my years teaching computer science at university, I've definitely noticed a very strong correlation between the ones who do well and the ones who go to classes and do exercises. You can even see this trend yourself by looking at the "most solved problems" charts on online judges and seeing how many people you recognise that do well in competitions.
You should read the Topcoder High School spotlight session interviews with many high rated Topcoders, there's a persistent theme of people spending many hours practicing. It's interesting to see ACRush say "it's at least 80% due to practice" and SnapDragon say "it's 90% due to practice".
Of course natural ability plays a part, but far less than you might think.
I hope u are right
If that is true, then why doesn't this user have the highest rating? https://codeforces.me/profile/tenkei
Less number of contests
I still believe that talent plays a much bigger factor in success than what cruise believed. tourist has been at the top of CodeForces for 10 years. You would think that someone would have already supplanted him by now.
Usually for those types of profile (many problems solved for a long period of time without stopping) make me think the person jumped to the editorial too quickly, was solving problems that were too easy for that person or simply copied solutions to fill up the grid.
Not saying he did that, but I also won't verify if he did or not.
tenkei is master Nagadon.
I was born Master.
Marinush
Sir are you de-aging?
Success makes you change your point of view over years. After I felt that IOI is too easy for me, I decided to unbecome master.
Marinush
As a newbie who has seen people with way less practice in coding, surpass me, I can confirm that talent is a real thing. You can take the high-end example of a person like tourist or the countless newbies on codeforces who have been grey for a very long time. This is my second account otherwise I fell to as low as 750 in CF rating (when a new account began with 1500 rating by default). I have seen my friends who are now experts/candidate masters and who started out in college just like I did but almost 2.5 years down the line, I truly suck and it is because of lack of talent. In my heart, I know that I did work hard, I have solved more problems on Leetcode and CF but I can only solve the first two on CF and so people think that I do easy questions.This is a general scenario with all newbies..
TLDR: TALENT IS REALLY NEEDED............
Then i think you should have worked harder, sorry I dont believe that you have commited to cp your maximum level.
Congratulations on becoming pupil.
Watch me on the long-time end ;)
money doesn't matter ~ rich people
looks dont matter ~ good looking people
talent doesnt't matter ~ talented people
I think we all should stop for a second and count till 12 ref: "Keeping Quiet" by Pablo Neruda