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Why Chinese kids are legend at CP?

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because they dont see adult film do maths homework on time

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I heard they train 8 hours a day at math to improve their programming skills.

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They have been training intensively since the age of 12. The schools would pick all potential kids and teach them advanced concepts very early. They usually spend a great deal of time doing homework (like 10+ hours daily for kids who aimed to compete in later years). Sad but true, to achieve what they have now, most of them sacrificed their childhood doing homework.

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u only know about those who have achieved legendary heights there are ofcourse average and below average CPers there too. Moreover as they have a humongous population u see more LGMs there when compared to other regions.

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Because they're legends

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Lots of practice

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In China, Overcompetition is called or 内卷, but it's being a positive word from 2 yrs ago. We've many pratice to do CP. Studying early is another factor — I studied Python in 3rd grade, C++ in 4th grade.(Now I'm 7th grade.)

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good coaches

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Whenever I am about to take a break and grab some snacks or cup of coffee,

my brain be like: "I am certain, somewhere in China, someone is grinding hard problems 24/7 to slaughter you in future contests".

My self-esteem:"Thanks boss, that's helpful"

Me: Eating a dry peace of bread in tears and making notes on a notebook to solve a problem

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Because they are neighbours of India

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    not to all Indians but actually, Indian kids are the complete opposite they usually don't even prove the problem they code and get WA most of the time, BTW most of the cheaters in CF are Indian (not offensive to Indians who are not like this)

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      There might be some bias where Indians cheat (in the words of my cousin from India: If it's not illegal it's okay), but there are just so many Indian CPers too that there are naturally going to be more cheaters from India.

      Clarification: I do not support the words of my cousin, that was just to prove a point.

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        The reason most Indians cheat is that the society here(and the parents) mostly are obsessed with the numerical quantification of the results, i.e. the marks on the result card, and not the actual learning.

        Even though their intention might be to attain a good career, somewhere along the way, they forget what actually matters, and the same translates to just somehow getting high ratings, no matter the way.

        I have literally seen parents appreciating it when their child tells them that they were able to solve some problem in some random school exam by outsmarting the invigilator. Most of them just care about the marks!!!

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Because they practice 40 hours a day.

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extra hours after extra hours. And it's not necessarily good. I wonder how many of them are severely burned out by the end of the school

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    Yes, you're right. The thing is, there is always someone talented and needing less time to have a rest. In a school, there are generally many students learning it at first. As you say, learning too hard is not necessarily good, but the students who are the most talented or who can suffer the great pain when studying will be instructed by better teachers. Sometimes they even interrupt other subjects and only study CP day and night for the (most important) competition. These students are "who are legend".

    Meanwhile, the other students who has "severely burned out" stop learning it or spend less time learning it. They only see CP as a hobby and they are the majority.

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they eat a lot of chocolate

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why 6 is afraid of 7????

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I am a Chinese kid. How to be legend at CP?

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because that if someone don't get the gold medal in IOI(International Olympiad in Informatic,IOI) before he turns three years old,he will have no face to continue living.

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I am a Chinese kid. In China, if someone don't get first prize of program design level certification, he will no longer learn CP. Therefore, a school generally has many students studying CP, and every school always has strong students.

That is to say, China has an advantage in population.

Besides, many schools give their students a lot of exercises in order to make their students rank higher in their provinces. It's worth noting that students who rank high in the current province can participate in the national finals. In China, if you win a medal in the national final, you can reduce the difficulty of going to college.

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A factor is that Chinese kids who get Au or Ag in NOI(Chinese National Olympiad in Informatics) can get greater advantages than others in "National College Entrance Examination".

Most of them want to enter the top university such as PKU and THU.

Even if Ministry of Education of China is weakening their advantages in this regard , they're still crazy about it.(Include me one year ago.But unfortunately I am a loser)

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Depends on how you define legend.

If you count legends as something like Codeforces LGM, then it is extra hours, full-time training, staying up late, that sort of thing. A large percentage of them are not perfectly healthy — Anxiety, depression, sleeping disorder, obesity, etc. Thus I don't actively advice anyone to imitate them. (But if you think it's worth it, I won't try to stop you.)

If you mean lower levels, then it can be attributed to the large population and the low starting age. Starting before high school certainly gives off some advantage. But this advantage is not decisive and is possible to compensate with talent or practice.

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maybe survivorship bias?

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In order to enter the top universities in China, we students must practise hard. And the number of excellent students is becoming larger and larger, but the number of top universities can hardly increase, so we must train more harder.

Another reason is the problems in CNOI are harder and harder these years in order to choose little top students from many excellent students. I think CNOI is much harder than IOI.

And there are many CPers of high levels around us. We can learn from them to become stronger.

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    Another reason is that you won't know your score during the contest in most of CNOI contests. If you are not of high levels, there's a risk that you may think your score is passable after a contest but get a low score at last because of little mistakes in an important contest. A friend of mine, who is of medium levels, just got 76 points in NOIP because the sample tests are weak. Another friend of mine, who is of high levels, got a passable score although he lost 130 points because he solved all the problems except the last problem and got a high score on the last problem. It pushes us to work hard.

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Why zhoukangyang is legend at CP?

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I only learnt the C of coding at grade 11. Sed me