I'll never forget it. He's super tall, bro, and like, it's super intimidating when he has so many bodyguards around him. And he came in. I was so nervous. But when he stuck his hand out and smiled, I felt safe. Just the way he asserted himself, the way he talked, the way he taught me his way of life, the way he was fearless. I understand why there's a lot of men that want to listen to him. He's not Jesus Christ though, so he's not going to be perfect. I know that this guy's an influential man, and when I see this man, I know that God's using him regardless of how he feels about it.